Twyla Dell

Good Night Gasoline – with Twyla Dell, Environmental Leader & Fuel Transition Historian

Episode 65

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Ron Kamen

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Quantum Quote:” From the early 20th-century author,  Ayn Rand – “You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.” – Twyla Dell

Every gallon of gasoline we burn creates ~20 pounds of carbon dioxide. Multiply times the number of gallons we consume every day, and you can understand why the atmosphere now has 50% more carbon dioxide than it did 100 years ago. No wonder it has accelerated global climate change and has fueled the more extreme weather conditions we are facing these days.

With what is happening now, do we continue to be in denial about the consequences of evading reality?

How can we do our part to lessen the use of gasoline – or even eliminate it altogether?

Nature has provided us with forces we can all use to have a cleaner environment and a better future for us all.

Why not look toward sustainable energy and find ways to make the most of it? 

Twyla Dell is a published author, environmental leader, and a fuel transition historian. She has written five environmental books and is podcasting and blogging on reducing gasoline use. Twyla has a Ph.D. in Environmental Studies from Antioch University and worked in public information for the EPA. She also lectured at business seminars across the United States and Canada, and created the Environmental Leadership Program for business and community leaders, teachers, and students. 

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Supernova #1:  What I realized was that gasoline was the culprit. It is something that we all do. And we can do something about it by using less gasoline. It’s the biggest pollution that we do – Every gallon of gasoline we burn releases 20 pounds of carbon dioxide.

Supernova #2: I just wrote a blog called “the Edge of Tomorrow”. That’s where we are. 12% to 15% into electric cars and solar power and everything else. We’re beginning to scramble around huge business opportunities. There is also an awakening among the citizens to say, I can do something by burning less gasoline. I can stop burning gasoline; I don’t have to put out the money for it and all the car repairs.

Supernova #3: Every time you drive about 3000 miles, you throw the weight of your car, that 3000-pound car, into the atmosphere. Looking at it, you drive 12,000 miles away a year, you’ve thrown 4 cars into the atmosphere. The atmosphere now has 50% more carbon dioxide than it did 100 years ago. 

Worst career moment: Here’s one, I’m still driving a Chrysler 2011 town car, and I only go to the grocery store and back. I just haven’t decided what I’m going to do. I’m really waiting for the self-driving taxi service. And I know it will get to Kansas City in the next three or four years, and I will be out of the internal combustion business. – Twyla Dell 

Aha! Moment: Discovering that gasoline was the culprit and the fact that it is such a well-kept secret that nobody talks about it to this moment. I am the only one – as far as I know -that tweets out these messages. We need to complain to the oil companies and stop failing to take responsibility for our power. We are customers. We are not addicts. We act like we’re addicts. This is one of the major breakthroughs that I had. We’re all addicted to oil out of necessity. We can realize that we don’t have to be addicted. We can use less; we can use none. We can walk away; we can make this happen. This is going to be the biggest realization of individual and collective power that we’ve ever taken on. – Twyla Dell 

Best Advice She’s Ever Received: “When a door opens, walk through it.” – Twyla Dell 

Personal Habit that Contributes to Success: “I read voraciously. Man, you would hate to see the number of books that I order from Amazon, they love me.” – Twyla Dell 

Books Recommendation: Fueling Change: How We Created Climate Change One Fuel at a Time by Twyla Dell, Ph.D. , Goodnight Gasoline: How to Win the Climate Change Challenge Twyla Dell, Ph.D., The Gasoline Diet: Drive Less, Lose Pounds, Save the Planet by Twyla Dell, Ph.D.

Magic Wand: “Be nice to each other. Quit carrying on like savages. We really need to cooperate to make this come about. We’re all on this together. There is no spare planet. We’ve got to make it work together.” – Twyla Dell 

WTF: “A bunch of friends and I went down to Yucatan over Easter vacation, and we ran out of money. We couldn’t get back, so we took a fishing boat from Yucatan to Veracruz. We had to wade out in the moonlight to get into the rowboat and get on the boat. We got into a tremendous storm and we ran out of food. They caught some fish and we got fish heads for four days. Finally, we got to Veracruz. I had 20 pesos; it activated the telephone. We called that we’re coming home. This man walked up to us and said, ‘Would you like a ride up to Mexico City?’ Because we didn’t have any money, we said yes. That’s how we got home.” – Twyla Dell 

Most Energized About Today: “I’m having lunch with my son who moved here from Burbank. For 20 years, I flew out to see him. From high school here, he went to the California Institute of the Arts to become an animator. That’s the school Disney started to supply artists to the animation industry. And then he was there. He got married, had kids there. If I wanted to see a grandkid, I’d get on a plane. I don’t have to do that anymore.” – Twyla Dell

Parting Advice: “Take climate change seriously; it’s going to be an increasing part of your life. It’s going to encroach in ways you won’t like unless you begin to do something independent of it. You can do nothing more impactful than to burn less gasoline or to stop it altogether.” – Twyla Dell


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