Catastrophe or Utopia? Which Way Do We Want to Go? – with Will Hackman, Public Sector Conservation Community

Episode 48

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Ron Kamen

Ron Kamen has decades of expertise & leadership in catalyzing exponential change in sustainable energy adoption with governments, non-profits, and businesses.

Quantum Quote: “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” – Margaret Mead

Did you know that humanity’s greenhouse gas emissions since the industrial revolution have already increased global temperatures by 1.2 degrees Celsius? And that 30% of our carbon emissions are absorbed by the oceans, causing ocean acidification that threatens the world’s food and oxygen supplies?

We are at a turning point. We can continue down the path of catastrophe – or choose to move to a carbon-free civilization that will create utopia.

Which direction do you want to go?

Listen to Will Hackman discuss how to save our place in nature before it’s too late.

Will Hackman is an issue advocate and a contributing author on energy, environmental, and climate change. He served as a campaign manager for federal races for the U.S.House and Senate and has been an ocean and public lands conservation advocate since 2013.

His love for the ocean started when he experienced being a commercial fisherman in Alaska. His time at sea left the life of the ocean in his veins, and  he became part of the ocean conservation movement.

He combined his background in both politics and the fishing industry to build public campaigns for international ocean conservation, aiming to stop overfishing and foreign illegal fishing around the world.

In this episode, Will Hackman talks about how the collective action of committed people working together for the reduction of harmful environmental emissions can save human civilization by  stimulating the end of climate change. By doing so, we can not only survive – but thrive in a sustainable utopia. 

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SuperNova #1.  “It’s not about saving the Earth. The Earth is going to be fine one way or another. What we’re doing is saving our place within nature before it’s too late.” – Will Hackman 

SuperNova #2. “People can really make a difference when they get involved.” – Will Hackman

SuperNova #3.“There are a lot of things that you can personally do to reduce your carbon impact, but from a global carbon reduction perspective, there are large scale institutional changes that are needed; [Nevertheless,] there’s a great way that people can get involved with those institutional changes, and that’s to vote.” – Will Hackman 

SuperNova #4 the United States has actually reduced carbon emissions by an absolute value, more than any other country in the world. While we are still the #3 emitters in the world – but we can show the world what’s possible.

Worst Climate Moment: On his 21st birthday, he spent 19 hours in a car after Hurricane Katrina hit Mississippi. He worked in a disaster relief distribution center for four days and witnessed how the wind destroyed the entire town.

Best Advice He’s Ever Received: Dress for the job that you want, not the job that you have.

Personal Habits that Contribute to Success: Consuming news that is good and real. It lets you stay on top of what’s happening in the world, and makes you a civically-engaged citizen who becomes a better individual on any issue

Internet Resource: The Climate Explainer on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ClimateExplainr

Book Recommendation: In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex by Nathaniel Philbrick – the real story of Moby Dick – a whaling boat that was attacked by a whale, and the history of whaling around the world.

Magic Wand: “Decarbonize the world – switching to renewable, clean energy, and no more fossil fuels. If we eliminate CO2 emissions and greenhouse emissions, we’ll have human sustainability.”

WTF or F: During a horribly cold and windy day in Iceland last year before Covid, the weather was so extreme but it was one of the most beautiful things he’s ever seen.

Most Energized about Today: The outcome of the Paris Agreement over the next five-year period – our nationally determined contribution – that will be released on Earth Day.

Parting Advice: “If you have people in your family who aren’t fully on board with what climate change means to them, talk to them about that. Everybody’s got that personal story and we all have that personal connection. Know what climate change means to you personally.”

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